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回复 135# wsjboy

IS HOV a buy?
回复 174# wsjboy


    看#136楼, 你也每回答我。
今天Home builder 都没根大盘大涨。
KBH, Tol, Ryl,Hov, Bzh, Spf,
都在跌。可以买吗?
回复 187# wsjboy
给看看,那个可以买跌:
Toll Brothers

Toll Brothers achieved revenue of $1.5 billion, $1.5 billion and $1.9 billion in FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively. Earnings increased from a $3.4 million loss in 2010, to profits of $39.8 million and $87.1 million in 2011 and 2012, respectively.
The company delivered 3,286 homes in 2012, compared to 2,611 homes in 2011. The increase in the number of homes was primarily due to the increase in the number of homes in backlog at the beginning of fiscal 2012, the increase in the number of homes delivered from available inventory, and homes delivered (201) from its Cam West operations acquired in November 2011.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 52.2% return.
Lennar

Lennar Corporation achieved revenues of $2.7 billion $2.7 billion and $3.6 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012. Earnings increased from $94.7 million in FYE 2010 to $222.1 million in FYE 2012.
In FYE 2012 new home deliveries, excluding consolidated entities, increased to 13,707 from 10,746 in FYE 2011 - a 28% increase. Meanwhile, the company experienced a 4% increase in the average sales prices of homes delivered.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013, the company's stock price increased nearly 76.0%.
KB Home

KB Home's revenues were $1.6 billion, $1.3 billion and $1.5 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011, and FYE 2012, respectively. The company achieved net losses of $69.4 million, $178.8 million and $59.0 million for FYE 2010, FYE 2011, and FYE 2012, respectively.
The company has some of the highest SG&A expenses in the industry. Its FYE 2012 SG&A expense was 16.2% of revenue, which compares unfavorably to Pulte (11.5% of revenue) and DR Horton (11.4% of revenue). Given its gross margin of 14.9%, KB Home achieved an FYE 2012 operating loss, prior to its interest expense incurred on borrowings to finance land purchases and housing inventory.
The stock price increased 71.3% through year-to-date February 1, 2013.
Beazer Homes

Beazer Homes achieved revenues of $742.4 million, $1.0 billion and $1.1 billion for FYE 2011, FYE 2012, and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012. The company achieved a net loss of $204.9 million, $145.3 million and $145.3 million over that same period.
For the last twelve months ended December 30, 2012, the company's gross margin was 14.6%, while is SG&A was 16.1% of revenues. That said, the company achieved an operating loss each year during the review period.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013, the stock achieved a 0.00% return.
Hovnanian Enterprises

Hovnanian Enterprises achieved revenues of $1.3 billion, $1.1 billion and $1.4 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively. It's net income was $2.6 million in FYE 2010, while it achieved a net loss of $286.1 million and $66.2 million in FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively.
For FYE 2012, gross margin was 16.1% and SG&A was 9.6% of revenues. However, other expenses (including other interest) were 11.7% of revenues, causing the company to incur a pretax loss.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 98.9% return.
DR Horton

DR Horton achieved revenues of $3.5 billion, $4.2 billion and $4.6 billion for FYE 2011, FYE 2012 and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012, respectively.
It earned net income of $71.8 million, $956.3 million, and $994.9 million over that same period; however, its pro forma net income (excluding the benefit of a reduction in its deferred tax asset allowance), would have been $7.3 million, $145.7 million and $193.0 million for FYE 2011, FYE 2012 and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012, respectively.
DR Horton's gross margin of 18.0% for the last twelve months ended was the highest of any of the selected home builders, giving it ample cushion to cover its SG&A at 12.0% of revenues.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 65.7% return.
PulteGroup, Inc.

Pulte achieved revenues of $4.4 billion, $4.0 billion and $4.2 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and last twelve months ended September 30, 2012, respectively. The company achieved a net loss of $1.1 billion and $210.4 million in FYE 2010 and FYE 2011, respectively. For the last twelve months it earned net income of $161.2 million.
For the last twelve months the company's gross margin was 14.3% and its SG&A was 10.8% of revenues. For FYE 2010 and FYE 2011, Pulte's gross margins were lower than its SG&A expense ratios, resulting in an operating loss.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 159.9% return.
"The Pain Ahead" For Home Builders

Though housing starts have rebounded from their 2009 trough, they may not reach pre-crisis levels of one million annually any time soon. In fact, if interest rates increase, they could retest the lows of 2009. According to the new book "SHOCK EXHCHANGE How Inner-City Kids From Brooklyn Predicted the Great Recession and the Pain Ahead":


Housing starts of 609 thousand in 2011 are less than a third of the 2.1 million starts at the peak of the review period (2005), and about 10% above the 2009 trough of 554,000 - the lowest since WWII. Falling home prices, rising foreclosures, sticky unemployment levels and banks' higher underwriting standards have attributed to some of the most dismal housing starts on record. Contrastly, housing starts during the recession of the early 1990s never fell below 1 million. The "tale of two recessions" reiterates that the crisis of 2008 was driven by real estate speculation - fueled by Wall Street - that will take years to rectify ... If mortgage rates reach double digits, housing starts could retest the lows of 2009.


The "smart money" invested in home builders in 2012 prior to the run up in stock prices. The eventual rise in interest rates could stall housing starts, and the earnings of home builders. That said, investors should look to take profits and potentially re-invest at a lower entry point.
home builder downgraded
请看看SINA,是否在做底,可以埋单了吗?还是等?
回复 220# wsjboy


    Thanks alot.
本帖最后由 saraa 于 2013-2-14 13:04 编辑

Close my Hov today, saw news, it is going to pay divident $0.45 on Feb 18th ?
Not sure this will press Hov down or not.
Anybody has experience on this?
回复 224# wsjboy
I bought after pre div day, may get slashed???
回复 228# wsjboy

For Hov to qulify get divident is Feb 5, I bought Hov at Feb 11.
So how about the Feb5 Th'er receive divident,
Feb 11 th'er get slashed??
I have no idea.
Why HOV drop so bad?
请教:HOV 可以买进了吗?
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