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对不起,saraa姐姐,不知怎么的,我没有看到您的136#post.说实话,我真弄不清为什么Home builder 大跌. 偷来一张图,大家凑合看看,再谈谈看法,分析分析. 1.jpg
也许是机会,也许是陷阱,大家一起来放放炮吧!!
每天都看的。不过,现在允许发图标了?还是纯文字好啊。

builder sectlr到顶没有疑问,swing short。
bought WTW st 50.78 by preset mine, now gain 1.91%
busy covering some short positions sold previous 2 days, and take the losses
回复 185# wsjboy

不急啊
我的空还在, 冷一边, 不看
回复  wsjboy

不急啊
我的空还在, 冷一边, 不看
aimei 发表于 2013-2-5 12:27


Thank you, aimei
I only chose the lost most stocks covered. I still have a few short positions.
回复 187# wsjboy
给看看,那个可以买跌:
Toll Brothers

Toll Brothers achieved revenue of $1.5 billion, $1.5 billion and $1.9 billion in FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively. Earnings increased from a $3.4 million loss in 2010, to profits of $39.8 million and $87.1 million in 2011 and 2012, respectively.
The company delivered 3,286 homes in 2012, compared to 2,611 homes in 2011. The increase in the number of homes was primarily due to the increase in the number of homes in backlog at the beginning of fiscal 2012, the increase in the number of homes delivered from available inventory, and homes delivered (201) from its Cam West operations acquired in November 2011.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 52.2% return.
Lennar

Lennar Corporation achieved revenues of $2.7 billion $2.7 billion and $3.6 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012. Earnings increased from $94.7 million in FYE 2010 to $222.1 million in FYE 2012.
In FYE 2012 new home deliveries, excluding consolidated entities, increased to 13,707 from 10,746 in FYE 2011 - a 28% increase. Meanwhile, the company experienced a 4% increase in the average sales prices of homes delivered.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013, the company's stock price increased nearly 76.0%.
KB Home

KB Home's revenues were $1.6 billion, $1.3 billion and $1.5 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011, and FYE 2012, respectively. The company achieved net losses of $69.4 million, $178.8 million and $59.0 million for FYE 2010, FYE 2011, and FYE 2012, respectively.
The company has some of the highest SG&A expenses in the industry. Its FYE 2012 SG&A expense was 16.2% of revenue, which compares unfavorably to Pulte (11.5% of revenue) and DR Horton (11.4% of revenue). Given its gross margin of 14.9%, KB Home achieved an FYE 2012 operating loss, prior to its interest expense incurred on borrowings to finance land purchases and housing inventory.
The stock price increased 71.3% through year-to-date February 1, 2013.
Beazer Homes

Beazer Homes achieved revenues of $742.4 million, $1.0 billion and $1.1 billion for FYE 2011, FYE 2012, and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012. The company achieved a net loss of $204.9 million, $145.3 million and $145.3 million over that same period.
For the last twelve months ended December 30, 2012, the company's gross margin was 14.6%, while is SG&A was 16.1% of revenues. That said, the company achieved an operating loss each year during the review period.
Through year-to-date February 1, 2013, the stock achieved a 0.00% return.
Hovnanian Enterprises

Hovnanian Enterprises achieved revenues of $1.3 billion, $1.1 billion and $1.4 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively. It's net income was $2.6 million in FYE 2010, while it achieved a net loss of $286.1 million and $66.2 million in FYE 2011 and FYE 2012, respectively.
For FYE 2012, gross margin was 16.1% and SG&A was 9.6% of revenues. However, other expenses (including other interest) were 11.7% of revenues, causing the company to incur a pretax loss.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 98.9% return.
DR Horton

DR Horton achieved revenues of $3.5 billion, $4.2 billion and $4.6 billion for FYE 2011, FYE 2012 and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012, respectively.
It earned net income of $71.8 million, $956.3 million, and $994.9 million over that same period; however, its pro forma net income (excluding the benefit of a reduction in its deferred tax asset allowance), would have been $7.3 million, $145.7 million and $193.0 million for FYE 2011, FYE 2012 and last twelve months ended December 31, 2012, respectively.
DR Horton's gross margin of 18.0% for the last twelve months ended was the highest of any of the selected home builders, giving it ample cushion to cover its SG&A at 12.0% of revenues.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 65.7% return.
PulteGroup, Inc.

Pulte achieved revenues of $4.4 billion, $4.0 billion and $4.2 billion for FYE 2010, FYE 2011 and last twelve months ended September 30, 2012, respectively. The company achieved a net loss of $1.1 billion and $210.4 million in FYE 2010 and FYE 2011, respectively. For the last twelve months it earned net income of $161.2 million.
For the last twelve months the company's gross margin was 14.3% and its SG&A was 10.8% of revenues. For FYE 2010 and FYE 2011, Pulte's gross margins were lower than its SG&A expense ratios, resulting in an operating loss.
Year-to-date February 1, 2013 the stock achieved a 159.9% return.
"The Pain Ahead" For Home Builders

Though housing starts have rebounded from their 2009 trough, they may not reach pre-crisis levels of one million annually any time soon. In fact, if interest rates increase, they could retest the lows of 2009. According to the new book "SHOCK EXHCHANGE How Inner-City Kids From Brooklyn Predicted the Great Recession and the Pain Ahead":


Housing starts of 609 thousand in 2011 are less than a third of the 2.1 million starts at the peak of the review period (2005), and about 10% above the 2009 trough of 554,000 - the lowest since WWII. Falling home prices, rising foreclosures, sticky unemployment levels and banks' higher underwriting standards have attributed to some of the most dismal housing starts on record. Contrastly, housing starts during the recession of the early 1990s never fell below 1 million. The "tale of two recessions" reiterates that the crisis of 2008 was driven by real estate speculation - fueled by Wall Street - that will take years to rectify ... If mortgage rates reach double digits, housing starts could retest the lows of 2009.


The "smart money" invested in home builders in 2012 prior to the run up in stock prices. The eventual rise in interest rates could stall housing starts, and the earnings of home builders. That said, investors should look to take profits and potentially re-invest at a lower entry point.
home builder downgraded
3-4 月 再说
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回复 188# saraa


    You need to set some low mines, which one hit, buy which one. This is my way to such things.
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本帖最后由 wsjboy 于 2013-3-29 15:25 编辑

bought CLSN at 1.21

CLSN heal Celsion Corp., biotchnlgy
alpha 54.20 beta 1.31
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bought HOV at 5.30
回复 192# wsjboy

1.13 support
Good Luck
本帖最后由 wsjboy 于 2013-3-29 16:36 编辑

bought COL at 59.40

COL indg Rockwell Collins Inc., aerospc/dfns prdcts&servcs
pe 14.92, peg 1.55, alpha 17.40 beta 1.15 a_vol 894, div 1.90, xdiv -, debt 1.07, insider -19.85,
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Rockwell Collins, Inc. designs, produces, and supports communications and aviation electronics for commercial and military customers worldwide. It operates in two segments, Government Systems and Commercial Systems. The Government Systems segment provides communications systems and products to enable the transmission of information, including satellite communications; navigation products and systems, such as radio navigation products, global positioning system equipment, handheld navigation devices, and multi-mode receivers; and avionics subsystems for aircraft flight decks that include flight controls and displays, information/data processing and communications, navigation, and safety and surveillance systems. It also offers cockpit display products consisting of multipurpose flat panel head-down displays, wide field of view head-up, and helmet-mounted displays; and simulation and training systems comprising visual system products, training systems, and services. This segment serves customers, including the U.S. Department of Defense, other ministries of defense, other government agencies, and defense contractors. The Commercial Systems segment supplies aviation electronics systems, products, and services, including integrated avionics systems, integrated cabin electronics systems, navigation systems and products, situational awareness and surveillance systems and products, electro-mechanical systems, simulation and training systems, on-board information management systems and connectivity solutions, airborne and ground applications and services, and ground infrastructure and services. It serves various customers comprising original equipment manufacturers of commercial air transport, business and regional aircraft, commercial airlines, and business aircraft operators. The company also provides maintenance, repair, parts, and after-sales support services. Rockwell Collins, Inc. was founded in 1933 and is headquartered in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
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罗克韦尔柯林斯公司设计,生产和支持世界各地的商业和军事客户的通信和航空电子设备。它的工作分为两个部分,政府系统和商业系统。政府系统部门提供通信系统和产品,使传输的信息,包括卫星通信,导航产品和系统,如无线电导航产品,全球定位系统设备,手持导航设备,多模式接收机和航空电子设备子系统飞机飞行甲板,包括飞行控制和显示,信息/数据处理和通信,导航,安全和监视系统。此外,还提供了座舱显示器产品,包括头向下的多功能平板显示器,宽视场头,头盔显示器,以及模拟和培训系统,包括视觉系统,培训系统,和服务。这部分客户提供服务,其中包括美国国防部,其他部委的防御,其他政府机构,以及国防承包商。商业系统部门提供航空电子系统,产品和服务,包括综合航电系统,综合座舱电子系统,导航系统和产品,态势感知和监控系统及产品,电子机械系统,模拟训练系统,板上信息管理系统和连接解决方案,空中和地面的应用和服务,以及地面基础设施和服务。不同的客户,包括原始设备制造商的商业航空运输,商业和支线飞机,商用航空公司,和商业飞机运营商提供服务。该公司还提供保养,维修,配件,售后支持服务。罗克韦尔柯林斯公司,公司成立于1933年,总部设在锡达拉皮兹。

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