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感覺工作越來越難找了
我知道的:有好多人觉得外边的环境,福利,生活质量较国内好慢慢地与外面的生活方式相融了。。。想回来也觉得回来受不了了。。。但要说到生活惬意,我觉得还是国内好,压力没那么大。。。
确实如人饮水
如人饮水,冷暖自知。
世事无绝对,只有真情趣。
吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸,中国男刚出国某方面的确比较惨,找不到女人排解寂寞了~~『排除官二代富二代』
中国女的出国就相对很欢乐
能在国外混的好回来的,基本上回国也能混的很好,成功不是基于环境,而是源于自身的自我建设
我知道很多华人在美混的很牛,也压根不想回来,也入籍了
根本不是本文说的这样,完全恶魔化
天增岁月人增肉,岁满乾坤肉满身,黄天在上,厚土为证,我愿用身上20公斤肉换取今年华夏风调雨顺!
海外华人成功的例子还少啊?
楼主有些话说的太绝对了。。
而且,去国外开开眼界也是挺好的。
10# 暗夜飞行
关系很重要的
有几个能创出大事业的,不都是过日子吗,钱不在多,开心就好
可是外国教育福利都是国内无法比拟的。而且回来工作好找
世界上不管哪个国家,绝大部分人都是那样过的。金字塔尖上的人毕竟只是少数。是金子在哪都能发光的。
I think his view is not objective, there is a lot of personal frustration in it.
1.  China and USA are very different in terms of economic enviroment, interpersonal involvement, and traditional behavior and thoughts.  In States, very few people "take back door" (zou3hou4men2).  You are very much relay on your own capability.  There are so many excellent Chinese students landed nice job in famous company, so successful and nounced in their profession.  I do believe, if here has same Chinese enviroment, we who has NO family background at all, will have way less people successful and way more obstucles to succee.  Even thought Anericans still say "it is who you know rather than what you know", but the "who you know"play a much smaller role than in China.

2.  Each individual's personality decides how and where you do better.  I think those Nerdy people may survive better in States than in China, because they do not know how to waving a interpersonal net, do not know how to pkease their boss.  Here in States, you might not need those if you work in certain area, or say need less of those skills.   In the mean time, people who are very outgoing, always like to be involed into the social and bussiness circles, may do better in China.  They may find themselves smoothered in States-----because they think it is too boring.
3.  Language is a true element dicided if they can survive in States.  If you can not speak English well, you can not melt into and enjoy American daily life, then go back to China.  We do not want to live somewhere that we suffered all the time, no music you like, no talk show you can laugh with, no people you can have a cup of tea with, that's not the place we want to live.

However, do not generalize every Chinese who live here.  Not most of people here are living a pathetic life.  To a lot of people, with or without high eduction, they find their spot in this society after several years of hard working.  It is the same in China.  Whithout parents support, how may college graduates can afford a house 5 years after they gradute?  How many of us in States can afford a house fives after we land a stable job?  HOw many of those Chinese Hai3Gui1 have to worry about their research funding after they work in an university there?  How many of us in States worry sick after being tenured?  HOw many weeks of vacation you can get in China as a Hai3Gui1, how many you can enjoy in States?  Of course China has a lot of advantages too,  such as food, language enviroment, families, etc.  
Wish you live well no matter where you are.
本帖最后由 bunnypp 于 2011-1-24 20:53 编辑

不是所有人都是在中国大学毕业就出国的。有些人更早,但有些人却可以晚几十年。

不是所有人出国的目的都是一样的。在国内有国内的活法,在国外自然有国外的不同。把两个完全不同的风土人情平行比较本身就有点问题。

在国外,高中生就开车上学。在国内,有车是身份的象征。这么比,本身有点缺心眼。。。

在国外,的确精神上会有点孤独。因为毕竟不是自己出生,长大的地方。但是这种孤单,只要在外面漂过的人都会有。在这种人口大量流动的时代,大多数人都会在不是自己出生,长大的地方学习或者工作。漂过的人,精神上的不满足,似乎再平常不过。

出国更多是一种经历和历练。只有眼界开阔,思想才能灵活。
"在国内混不好的,在国外也混不好;在国外混不好的,在国内也混不好我始终坚持这个观点。"
那你在国内混的好,你去国外试试去?!
"出国的人,很多人的性格都不太开明,比较自私,因为大家读书读了几十年,在人性的思考和努力其实是不多的,或者说思考了却做不到的。"
这话说的我不爱听。 你海龟了就把自己漂白了? 真是一杆子打倒一船人。 从网络论坛里看人得结论本来就是管中窥豹,再加上偏见,这帖子看的真没劲。您哪凉快哪歇着吧,别在这恶心人。

“这个社会,真正有能力的人,都能浮在社会金字塔尖上,你没有起来,只能说明,你的能力还没有你想象的强,或者你是自以为是”

这话没准儿也适用于你,自己面面壁吧。
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